Wednesday, August 26, 2009

So Who Should Be More Embarrassed?

St Timothy's Lutheran church in Charleston, WV, is making news after learning of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) convention vote to allow monogamous gays and lesbians to have larger roles in the church including serving as pastors.

Richard Mahan, pastor of the church first covered the "Lutheran" on his church's sign and then delivered this message to his congregation, most of whom apparently agree with him.
"I asked that be done because I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed of what the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America has done to a church I've loved for 40 years," Pastor Richard Mahan told his congregation during last Sunday’s morning service. According to Christian Today news service, St. Timothy typically has 300 to 400 members in attendance each Sunday. So the minister used the sermon to teach his congregants about homosexuality, adding that "We welcome the sinner, but we do not welcome the sin."

Since the ELCA vote specifically leaves the determination on whether to have gay leaders to each church and local synod, the question is who should be more embarrassed over their outward display of homophobia? The pastor, who one would think would know of tolerance, or his congregation that are basically sheeple in the larger flock?

Pastor, maybe you and your congregation should just convert to Catholicism, their gay priests are usually "on the QT" and must remain celibate either way (would not being able to be with the one you love anymore be a deal breaker Pastor Mahan?) so you won't have to deal with those monogamous gays anymore. Plus I hear they are always looking for collection plate fillers to pay for pedophilia lawsuits members so you and your congregation should fit right in.

5 comments:

  1. This "right of the people peaceably to assemble" is protected by the First Amendment of our federal Constitution Certainly, you, too, are protected by the same Amendment when you make the simpleton's suggestion that the high-minded pastor may lead his errant flock to join the Catholic Church. I should say though, when you offer this obtuse solution, you demonstrate a moderate cognizance of content within churches but also an utter lack of any appreciation for meaning.

    Regardless, I don't know if I'll care to return here, but, supposing I do, I would look forward to your enlightening treatise on "homophobia".

    Thank you.

    P.S. You should also look into getting your vertical scroll bar fixed.

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  2. Please define "homophobia", as you level the epithet against the Pastor Richard Mahan -- who spoke, "We welcome the sinner, but we do not welcome the sin."

    "Mahan told the Charleston Daily Mail 'I am not speaking out against the gay and lesbian community, but I am speaking out against the ordination of gays and lesbians as pastors and bishops and leaders of the church - and the blessing of same-sex marriages.'" -- the source is the same article linked to by "delivered this message" above

    Please excuse my ignorance, for I am not privy to your line of thinking. In my experience, the term "homophobia" has been associated with words like "fear" and "hate", neither of which were used or implied by the pastor against the gay and lesbian community. Yes, the pastor (and much of his congregation) is opposed to a segment of our society -- defined by their behavior and political advocacy -- from attaining positions of stature within his church and within other churches across the horizon.

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  3. Brian,

    Homophobia (from Greek homós: one and the same; phóbos: fear, phobia) is defined as an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals or individuals perceived to be homosexual

    Pretty much perfectly fits this pastor and his sheeple.

    And PS to your PS, the scroll bar is a function of your browser and not the site design so if you are having a problem I am guessing you are using an outdated browser, likely again a guess, IE 6

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  4. Brian,

    Homophobia (from Greek homós: one and the same; phóbos: fear, phobia) is defined as an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals or individuals perceived to be homosexual

    Pretty much perfectly fits this pastor and his sheeple.

    And PS tp your PS, the scroll bar is a function of your browser and not the site design so if you are having a problem I am guessing you are using an outdated browser, likely I am guessing IE 6

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  5. Please define "homophobia", as you level the epithet against the Pastor Richard Mahan -- who spoke, "We welcome the sinner, but we do not welcome the sin."

    "Mahan told the Charleston Daily Mail 'I am not speaking out against the gay and lesbian community, but I am speaking out against the ordination of gays and lesbians as pastors and bishops and leaders of the church - and the blessing of same-sex marriages.'" -- the source is the same article linked to by "delivered this message" above

    Please excuse my ignorance, for I am not privy to your line of thinking. In my experience, the term "homophobia" has been associated with words like "fear" and "hate", neither of which were used or implied by the pastor against the gay and lesbian community. Yes, the pastor (and much of his congregation) is opposed to a segment of our society -- defined by their behavior and political advocacy -- from attaining positions of stature within his church and within other churches across the horizon.

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